what year do you need a cat for

[D J]

Original ford ones but that depends on the downpipe if you have the magnex one that splits into two then you will need a suitable downpipe as well

Cheers ben. Will have to wait until i collect the car to check then.

[Davecos 4x4]

how has it been mot'd before then.

most of us run no cats and get away with it at the mot stations.

[D J]

how has it been mot'd before then.

most of us run no cats and get away with it at the mot stations.

Not sure what the previous owners have done. Maybe know a friendly test place but i want to be on the safe side.

[Davecos 4x4]

fair enough.

[Mark King]

Its the mid 1992 onwards Sapphires that have CATs in the UK (The ones with Green cam covers), until then they had no CAT and red cam covers.

Pretty sure all Escort Cosworths had a CAT factory fitted.

Who needs cats for mot

[COZZFATHER]

I thought most european countries had them from '89... Pretty sure the sapphire cossies from '89 and onwards have cats apart from Italian ones. Doesnt surprise me that UK has different rules though, you guys always have it easier with these things

from my memory ginges date sounds about right but and its a big butt,the powers that be had to let the manufacturers have time to shift pre cat early 92 cars and i think if me memorys correct the date then shifted to 1st jan 93 in the uk.

[D J]

from my memory ginges date sounds about right but and its a big butt,the powers that be had to let the manufacturers have time to shift pre cat early 92 cars and i think if me memorys correct the date then shifted to 1st jan 93 in the uk.

This could be right as the lad im buying the car from said that it didn't need one being 92

[Dave]

That's right, according to the old rules

But now, if a car came from the factory with a CAT then it must have one fitted, all Escort Cos' came with a CAT as std

[D J]

That's right, according to the old rules

But now, if a car came from the factory with a CAT then it must have one fitted, all Escort Cos' came with a CAT as std

Cheers

[stucos]

There is a small loop hole in mot law were you can get an escos mot,s quit legal without a cat

cheeRS stu

[COZZFATHER]

That's right, according to the old rules

But now, if a car came from the factory with a CAT then it must have one fitted, all Escort Cos' came with a CAT as std

grandfather rights

if yer daft enough to tell the tester who lets face it is probably cluless about cosworths that a pre 93 car came with a cat and have taken it off then theres no hope

[warrenpenalver]

not forgetting that a cat is just a box on the exhaust system an any car before 1 aug 1992 will have less stringent emissions tests then your cat for the early cars can just be an empty box for all the difference it needs to make.

plus youve still got the engine swap exemptions you can use if the new engine is a 1992 or before block.

[stucos]

Warren thats the exemption i use to test my escos with no cat,

cheeRS stu

[Ginge]

plus youve still got the engine swap exemptions you can use if the new engine is a 1992 or before block.

Yes you could have previously used that excuse but it now states if the car was fitted with a CAT from the factory it must have one fitted now.

[warrenpenalver]

but the mot manual emissions test section hasnt been changed to remove the older engine exemptions, so there is already direct conflict within the rules in the manual itself if the interpretation is as you say.

Hence why there will have to be some revisions or advice notes in the coming months if the changes are to function as VOSA intended.